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~. --* TERRA-NO YJ1 &ERJ1LD. =*=*- - Here shall the Press the People's Rights maintain, ■ Unawed by influence and unbrtbed by gain, *\ Htire Patriot Truth her glorious precepts draw, 11 Pledged to Religion, Liberty; and Law,'* NEW SERKB^} ST. JO&N, NEWFOUNDLAND, THURSDAY, JUNE 24, 1847. [Kb. XXIV HOUSE OF LORDS, LONDON lone-halfwas the precise proportion that TVT A V* Oft r_i._rl._L in Via rrrantari fn-n tliof m_«>_.ncn TUa-^a MA-Y 28. FIRE ATST.JOE_tFS,NEWFOUNDI- AND. Lord Portman rose, pursuant to notice, to call the attention of the house to papers which had been laid upon their Lordships' table, respecting the destructive fire which had soifco time ago taken place at St. John, Newfoundland. When in tiie first instance ought to be granted for that purpose. There was one more stage of .the proceeding "to which he would refer: The Bishop of New- | foundland requested that the njfoney should be kept in this country, and placed somewhere, so that interest might accrue upon it, whereby it might become W larger sum, and be more useful than if sent to the colony at first. His noble friend {ike secretary it was thought necessary to bring the sub-[for the colonies consented to that course, ject before IPjfcrttament, his noble friend the Secretary of State consented to lay before them the papers that were required to develope the whole transaction. Those papers had for some time been before the house ; and having considered them, he took it upon himself to say thatthe case was one which did require the attention of their Lordships. The money which had been stflweflbcd in consequence of this disastrous fire was not only not applied to the purposes specified in the Queen's Letter, but was applied, by private arrangement, to matters which had not been mentioned in j her Majesty's letter. Both the purposes to ] which the money had been applied might | have been in themselves good, but it was not for both; it was only for one of the number that the subscribers gave their contributions. The Society for Propagating the Gospel in Foreign Parts had subscribed £2,000 towards rebuilding the episcopal church at St. John's. But the collection under the Queen's letter was made from door to* door, and many became subscribers who never thought that they were giving their money for the purpose of rebuilding an episcopal church, inasmuch as many of the subscribers were Dissenters, and who, in giving their money, thought that they were merely contributing to the relief of their distressed brethren. The petition praying that a Queen's letter be issued asked for assistance generally, and particularly referred to the re-building of the church ; but the answer to that petition as well as thc Queen's letter was silent on the subject. What he complained of was this, that having in tlie first instance taken what seemed to be a perfectly safe, sound and courteous course, namely, referring it to the governor of the colony to inform him whether it was desirable that any part of the money collected could be spared for the purpose of rebuilding the parish church of St. John, and, if so, what portion could be so applied, his noble friend the Secretary for the colonies did not wait for the answer of the Governor, but suddenly but unfortunately another aut|s^rity in this country stepped in, and the.Lords ofthe Treasury declined to adopt the suggestion. It was evident there was great distrust in from the Officer administering the.govern- nient of Newfoundland, stating that the grant of money that had been already made had had a demoralizing tendency, (a§ the people seemed to have an idea that; .whether they were in poverty or not, they had » right to relief out of the money that had been subscribed, and requesting that (he rest of the funds might be placed in the hands of the Secretary for the Colonies, to be appropriated as he thought fit, and in particular recommending that a part of ii should be applied to the rebuilding of the church. He placed his change of determination expressly on the ground of this the Authorities ofthe Colony, though from | information, and on the fact that the prin what cause it was not for him to say : but: cipal sufferers had received almost the there was this difference between the case' whole amount of their loss, whilst those ofthe fire in Newfoundland and that of who had not received the amount of their Quebec* In the latter caa^tlj^ money col- [losses were tlie small shopkeepers, on whom! lected under tlie authority of the Queen's the expense off restoHng the choreh would letter for the relief ofthe sufferers was sent principally fall. Besides the Officer Ad- to Lord Metcalfe, the Governor of the Co- j ministering the. Government had recom- lony, for his appropriation and distribution ; mended a fixed proportion of the itooney and he therefore was responsible for the to be applied to this particular purpose.' whole proceeding ; but upon this occasion j With respect to the Queen's letter, it was there appeared to have been an under- ! contrary to precedent to notice all the ob- standing with the London committee and jects to whicii the collections^ were to be with the Right Rev, Prelate, and also with applied, and it was the usual course to leave the Noble Earl the.Secretary for the Co- the distribution of the fund raised to a com- lonies, that the parties who contributed the mittee administering any general subscrip- money should not be told tbe purpose for tion, the Government having", in fact, no which their money was asked. In his opi- means of distributing those voluntary con- nion, however, it was desirable that in eve- tributions. At the same time he saw no' ry case where the people of this country objection to the preseat motion. . were asked to contribute their money for ! The Bishop of SALISBURY said, that any purpose, they should be distinctly tokl the paities who applied for the Queen's what the purpose was. The noble Lord Letter, the Authorities in the Colony,* and then concluded with expressing his hope her Majesty's Government, had all concur- that their lordships would concur in the red in the necessity and propriety of thia motion he was about to make, that an hum ble address be presented to her Majesty, praying her Majesty to direct, that as often as her Majesty should be graciously pleased to issue a letter directed to the Archbishops of Canterbury and York, authorizing the collection of contributions, an account should be rendered of the amount of money received, of the parties to whom it was paid, and of the purposes to which it was applied. The Bishop of LONDON could not conceive that there had been any breach of trust, or the slightest deviation from tho strict line of duty, on the part of the Secretary of State in the course, he had taken. Earl GREY said it was true that, on the 7th of November, 1S4G, he did refuse to illot any portion of the money to the purpose of rebuilding the church of St. John's, but shortly afterwards ho received a De- jumped as it were tf> thc conclusion tbat[spatch, dated the 26th of November, lS4fi. application ofthe money; and he believed1 it met with general assent. . . Lord PORTMAN replied, disciithning^ any intention of imputing blame ,to any of the clergy, though there was a different interpretation put by them upon1 the Queen's' letter.—The motion was then' agreed to.- ^"By tbe foregoing remarks it will be observed that we were perfectly .correct when we state 1 that the plot for robbing thO fire sufferers was hatched'at Goye'rnrtibht- house) but at the time we stated tliis fact,- we had no idea of the treachery W'hich tfie observations of Earl Grey disc-loses. Who' could have imagined i\)i\X tit the time the Administrator Law replied so pathetically to the deputation who waited on him soliciting him to transmit the sufferers' complaint to the foot of tlie Throne—when, laying his ha:id upon his bosom, he exclaimed, " My*
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Description | 1847-06-24, no. 24, The Patriot And Terra-Nova Herald |
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Transcript | ~. --* TERRA-NO YJ1 &ERJ1LD. =*=*- - Here shall the Press the People's Rights maintain, ■ Unawed by influence and unbrtbed by gain, *\ Htire Patriot Truth her glorious precepts draw, 11 Pledged to Religion, Liberty; and Law,'* NEW SERKB^} ST. JO&N, NEWFOUNDLAND, THURSDAY, JUNE 24, 1847. [Kb. XXIV HOUSE OF LORDS, LONDON lone-halfwas the precise proportion that TVT A V* Oft r_i._rl._L in Via rrrantari fn-n tliof m_«>_.ncn TUa-^a MA-Y 28. FIRE ATST.JOE_tFS,NEWFOUNDI- AND. Lord Portman rose, pursuant to notice, to call the attention of the house to papers which had been laid upon their Lordships' table, respecting the destructive fire which had soifco time ago taken place at St. John, Newfoundland. When in tiie first instance ought to be granted for that purpose. There was one more stage of .the proceeding "to which he would refer: The Bishop of New- | foundland requested that the njfoney should be kept in this country, and placed somewhere, so that interest might accrue upon it, whereby it might become W larger sum, and be more useful than if sent to the colony at first. His noble friend {ike secretary it was thought necessary to bring the sub-[for the colonies consented to that course, ject before IPjfcrttament, his noble friend the Secretary of State consented to lay before them the papers that were required to develope the whole transaction. Those papers had for some time been before the house ; and having considered them, he took it upon himself to say thatthe case was one which did require the attention of their Lordships. The money which had been stflweflbcd in consequence of this disastrous fire was not only not applied to the purposes specified in the Queen's Letter, but was applied, by private arrangement, to matters which had not been mentioned in j her Majesty's letter. Both the purposes to ] which the money had been applied might | have been in themselves good, but it was not for both; it was only for one of the number that the subscribers gave their contributions. The Society for Propagating the Gospel in Foreign Parts had subscribed £2,000 towards rebuilding the episcopal church at St. John's. But the collection under the Queen's letter was made from door to* door, and many became subscribers who never thought that they were giving their money for the purpose of rebuilding an episcopal church, inasmuch as many of the subscribers were Dissenters, and who, in giving their money, thought that they were merely contributing to the relief of their distressed brethren. The petition praying that a Queen's letter be issued asked for assistance generally, and particularly referred to the re-building of the church ; but the answer to that petition as well as thc Queen's letter was silent on the subject. What he complained of was this, that having in tlie first instance taken what seemed to be a perfectly safe, sound and courteous course, namely, referring it to the governor of the colony to inform him whether it was desirable that any part of the money collected could be spared for the purpose of rebuilding the parish church of St. John, and, if so, what portion could be so applied, his noble friend the Secretary for the colonies did not wait for the answer of the Governor, but suddenly but unfortunately another aut|s^rity in this country stepped in, and the.Lords ofthe Treasury declined to adopt the suggestion. It was evident there was great distrust in from the Officer administering the.govern- nient of Newfoundland, stating that the grant of money that had been already made had had a demoralizing tendency, (a§ the people seemed to have an idea that; .whether they were in poverty or not, they had » right to relief out of the money that had been subscribed, and requesting that (he rest of the funds might be placed in the hands of the Secretary for the Colonies, to be appropriated as he thought fit, and in particular recommending that a part of ii should be applied to the rebuilding of the church. He placed his change of determination expressly on the ground of this the Authorities ofthe Colony, though from | information, and on the fact that the prin what cause it was not for him to say : but: cipal sufferers had received almost the there was this difference between the case' whole amount of their loss, whilst those ofthe fire in Newfoundland and that of who had not received the amount of their Quebec* In the latter caa^tlj^ money col- [losses were tlie small shopkeepers, on whom! lected under tlie authority of the Queen's the expense off restoHng the choreh would letter for the relief ofthe sufferers was sent principally fall. Besides the Officer Ad- to Lord Metcalfe, the Governor of the Co- j ministering the. Government had recom- lony, for his appropriation and distribution ; mended a fixed proportion of the itooney and he therefore was responsible for the to be applied to this particular purpose.' whole proceeding ; but upon this occasion j With respect to the Queen's letter, it was there appeared to have been an under- ! contrary to precedent to notice all the ob- standing with the London committee and jects to whicii the collections^ were to be with the Right Rev, Prelate, and also with applied, and it was the usual course to leave the Noble Earl the.Secretary for the Co- the distribution of the fund raised to a com- lonies, that the parties who contributed the mittee administering any general subscrip- money should not be told tbe purpose for tion, the Government having", in fact, no which their money was asked. In his opi- means of distributing those voluntary con- nion, however, it was desirable that in eve- tributions. At the same time he saw no' ry case where the people of this country objection to the preseat motion. . were asked to contribute their money for ! The Bishop of SALISBURY said, that any purpose, they should be distinctly tokl the paities who applied for the Queen's what the purpose was. The noble Lord Letter, the Authorities in the Colony,* and then concluded with expressing his hope her Majesty's Government, had all concur- that their lordships would concur in the red in the necessity and propriety of thia motion he was about to make, that an hum ble address be presented to her Majesty, praying her Majesty to direct, that as often as her Majesty should be graciously pleased to issue a letter directed to the Archbishops of Canterbury and York, authorizing the collection of contributions, an account should be rendered of the amount of money received, of the parties to whom it was paid, and of the purposes to which it was applied. The Bishop of LONDON could not conceive that there had been any breach of trust, or the slightest deviation from tho strict line of duty, on the part of the Secretary of State in the course, he had taken. Earl GREY said it was true that, on the 7th of November, 1S4G, he did refuse to illot any portion of the money to the purpose of rebuilding the church of St. John's, but shortly afterwards ho received a De- jumped as it were tf> thc conclusion tbat[spatch, dated the 26th of November, lS4fi. application ofthe money; and he believed1 it met with general assent. . . Lord PORTMAN replied, disciithning^ any intention of imputing blame ,to any of the clergy, though there was a different interpretation put by them upon1 the Queen's' letter.—The motion was then' agreed to.- ^"By tbe foregoing remarks it will be observed that we were perfectly .correct when we state 1 that the plot for robbing thO fire sufferers was hatched'at Goye'rnrtibht- house) but at the time we stated tliis fact,- we had no idea of the treachery W'hich tfie observations of Earl Grey disc-loses. Who' could have imagined i\)i\X tit the time the Administrator Law replied so pathetically to the deputation who waited on him soliciting him to transmit the sufferers' complaint to the foot of tlie Throne—when, laying his ha:id upon his bosom, he exclaimed, " My* |